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The Talon

The student news site of Los Altos High School in Los Altos, California

The Talon

Editorial: The Talon’s Opinion on ‘LAHS Secrets’

The “LAHS Secrets” page has existed for less than a week, and it already has over 600 likes and a backlog of submissions. It’s also already created the potential for serious consequences—legal and otherwise. Although this page was probably started with innocent intentions, it may have severe repercussions that neither students or faculty are equipped to deal with.

The creators likely had no intention of doing people harm. However, this page ceased to have any semblance of being harmless when it began referring to teachers by name. Although the moderator of the page has already taken down the most offensive comments that referred to teachers by name, this just goes to show how quickly libelous comments have been posted.

And “libelous” is literal—teachers could potentially sue students for some of the comments that have been posted on the page. Dozens of students have been expelled for Facebook comments in schools across the United States.

This is a public forum. Anyone can see it—administrators have already liked it. Students may feel that their identities are protected due to their anonymity, but this attitude is pure naivete. It is possible for Facebook to track IP addresses and figure out who submitted the secrets. The moderator, or group of moderators, already knows. This alone should be reason enough not to submit comments—by doing so, students are placing their trust in a total stranger.

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Although just today, the moderators resolved to have “a new policy of not posting anything that would likely be considered offensive or slanderous towards teachers and other individuals,” that doesn’t mean students will stop submitting them. And some comments may go beyond libel. If the moderator receives a secret in which a student threatens to physically harm another, they will be in a difficult situation: uncertain whether the threat is serious, and what to do if it is.

Some secrets have already approached being threatening, albeit jokingly.

One comment says, “For my English narrative, I wrote a story about how a boy goes crazy and kills his math teacher with a lacrosse stick which was strongly based on my relationship with [my math teacher].”

At what point do comments like these become serious threats? And, more importantly, do high schoolers have the training and experience to decide?

Using this page puts all students involved in danger and out of their depth. And its benefits are unclear at best.

The moderators posted a comment saying, “We just want you all to understand that though this page will continue to post funny thoughts and stories, you shouldn’t forget why the page was made in the first place, and that there are real problems all around us that we don’t even know about.”

The problems are real, but this is not the way to deal with them. Posting anonymous comments about bullying or issues with teachers doesn’t solve these problems—it just keeps students guessing, or worse, scoffing at serious topics.

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  • Salim Damerdji | Feb 19, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    I’m pretty sure libel requires the hurtful statements to be false. The Talon probably shouldn’t default assume such serious accusations were false.

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  • $23015744 | Feb 19, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    I’m pretty sure libel requires the hurtful statements to be false. The Talon probably shouldn’t default assume such serious accusations were false.

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  • Anonymous | Feb 7, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    I think you guys are taking the article the wrong way. I was disappointed when they took down the page too but I can completely understand why they did it (as a student unaffiliated with the Talon). There was 1 moderator for this page, a high school student that you may or may not know. That kid has the names associated with the secrets and has access to all of them, including the ones posted. Blackmail. Lots and lots of blackmail. Also, I love our school just as much as anyone, but what should the moderator do if they start getting messages saying “I’m going to bring a gun to school and shoot my math teacher”? And they did. Are they supposed to ignore that? Over 180 kids have been shot in school shooting in the last 14 years. It’s not like they don’t happen, even if I’d like to think our school is better and safer than those. It started as a joke, but the anonymity of the internet and that page made the users turn malicious and it wasn’t quite so funny anymore. We just can’t see it so easily because we aren’t the moderators. So they made the conscious decision to shut down the page. I’m not thrilled, but try to understand.

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  • Anonymous | Feb 7, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    I think you guys are taking the article the wrong way. I was disappointed when they took down the page too but I can completely understand why they did it (as a student unaffiliated with the Talon). There was 1 moderator for this page, a high school student that you may or may not know. That kid has the names associated with the secrets and has access to all of them, including the ones posted. Blackmail. Lots and lots of blackmail. Also, I love our school just as much as anyone, but what should the moderator do if they start getting messages saying “I’m going to bring a gun to school and shoot my math teacher”? And they did. Are they supposed to ignore that? Over 180 kids have been shot in school shooting in the last 14 years. It’s not like they don’t happen, even if I’d like to think our school is better and safer than those. It started as a joke, but the anonymity of the internet and that page made the users turn malicious and it wasn’t quite so funny anymore. We just can’t see it so easily because we aren’t the moderators. So they made the conscious decision to shut down the page. I’m not thrilled, but try to understand.

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  • TheTalon | Feb 6, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    Due to district policy in accordance with California Educational Code, all comments to The Talon’s website must be approved or not approved by the journalism adviser, who is currently unavailable. The adviser will resume approving comments tomorrow.
    Please see The Talon’s editorial policy at https://www.lahstalon.org/policies/ for more details.

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  • -_- | Feb 6, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    The sarcastic undertones and snide remarks made in this article make me wonder the integrity and unbiased tone that a school newspaper should have. Isn’t Talon supposed to represent the students? Why does it seem that Talon is representing the administration and all the others who don’t listen to the opinions of teenagers who are constantly told they don’t know better.

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  • Guest | Feb 6, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    The sarcastic undertones and snide remarks made in this article make me wonder the integrity and unbiased tone that a school newspaper should have. Isn’t Talon supposed to represent the students? Why does it seem that Talon is representing the administration and all the others who don’t listen to the opinions of teenagers who are constantly told they don’t know better.

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  • Disappointed | Feb 6, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Seems like nobody can take a joke anymore. None of these anonymous posts were submitted with malicious intent. It’s offensive to think that LAHS would think that their students would go so far as to threaten to kill a teacher or kill a teacher or try and get them fired. The way that this has been handled is truly disappointing. The sarcastic, snide tone of this article already screams bias and misinterpreted information.

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  • Disappointed | Feb 6, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Seems like nobody can take a joke anymore. None of these anonymous posts were submitted with malicious intent. It’s offensive to think that LAHS would think that their students would go so far as to threaten to kill a teacher or kill a teacher or try and get them fired. The way that this has been handled is truly disappointing. The sarcastic, snide tone of this article already screams bias and misinterpreted information.

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  • Fed up | Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    People need to calm down. Scoffing at SERIOUS topics? Nothing is serious. That page is a joke. No one can saying anything without getting sued these days.

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  • Fed up | Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    People need to calm down. Scoffing at SERIOUS topics? Nothing is serious. That page is a joke. No one can saying anything without getting sued these days.

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